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Tencent CEO Ma, chairman and chief
Ma accepted the Yangcheng Evening News interview, dwell on the worst in 12 years of confrontation and war --- in addition to the net we have no other
announced that from November 3 allows users to make 360 and QQ \\However, his \Be deprived of the right to choose, privacy ... ... tide from a series of accusations. He tried to explain. \360 and QQ, what happened between them? Yangcheng Evening News interview with Ma trying to uncover some secrets.
Yangcheng Evening News reporter Zhang
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Yangcheng Evening News: I heard that the Ministry of Industry has to mediate disputes between Tencent and 360, and now how to progress?
Ma: Actually from it (360) Published plug (refer to 360 buttoned bodyguards), we have been looking for relevant departments to coordinate. Prior to this, although we encountered the game, the Rainbow QQ, plug-in, but do not have the nature of bad, one day tens of millions of users are infected, the situation has been very critical. We estimate that, if allowed to continue, to be heavy volume days buttoned bodyguards to 8,000 million, and it is the introduction of security vendors, are the bottom of the application, hidden deep, and the underlying security software protection. So we quickly with the Ministry of Industry, the public security departments, want to come forward to stop, of course, we also take civil proceedings, but the disaster is happening, not by the court in time, we only have two hands ready to do: First,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], look for the government; the second is self-help .
Yangcheng Evening News: Why did you choose to let end users \
Ma: two routes, government this road is very long, buttoned bodyguard is more than 11 published on Friday, Monday has more than 2000 million infections, we have seen it on Tuesday in the induction of user-generated pictures and spread, assuming that each user has 40 friends QQ, and that 20 million users can spread to 800 million, the situation has been very critical, in addition to confrontation and the first under the net, we have no other way.
Yangcheng Evening News: If the less than net, what will happen?
Ma: It has been blatantly stolen QQ data, more than 2000 million user information is copied. We have a very detailed evidence preservation. 360 before the introduction of privacy protection is to pave the way buttoned bodyguards, its real purpose is to kill the QQ's security module, so that QQ can not upgrade, not a self-help.
Yangcheng Evening News: 360 to the data to do?
Ma: 360, for which safety is only an excuse to push instant messaging is one of the goals.
Yangcheng Evening News: How come?
Ma: You have to see some shots, they also understand that the plug-in with QQ programmers some of the previous contact.
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Yangcheng Evening News: The two sides are not already in communication?
Ma: We propose three conditions required 360 --- all clients must complete the buttoning a shirt privacy protection bodyguards and unloading, public commitment to the future does not block Tencent procedures Tencent public apology to the damages. Government departments to look is reasonable, after all, I'm standing here had nothing dry, but why you do it I, can not engage in after completing a quit the jobs, right? !
Yangcheng Evening News: 360 agreed to these conditions it?
Ma: It was to guard the entrance buttoned closed. But once the 7.5 version of 360 security guards bodyguards directly to buttoning a shirt packed inside, so we any connection with the government complaint. There the user has installed buttoned bodyguards, and they do not delete the user's own cunning, said there is no way, how is this possible, your \Delete command does not start directly on the line.
News: is not it can be understood, tend to identify the Ministry of Industry Tencent is innocent?
Ma: It sure is. But taking into account the user, the Ministry still hope that wanted stability, not magnitude of too much. In our view, any government help, at least let it have a guarantee. If there is a third-party certification, it is the best, after all, found this part of the law unclear, manufacturers often walk on the edge of the area, and sometimes, it is first poured dirty water, you have been a lot of damage , so when you clean everything late.
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News: But now, users have generally reflected their right to choose taken away.
Ma: do users the option subject to certain injuries. If you give me a month's time, I can think of a more perfect solution, but only two and a half. I have to put out the fire, although the majority of users, the flame is not burning, but when they saw when the fire was already too late.
Yangcheng Evening News: Why not use technical means to shield 360?
Ma: I is the application layer, it is the bottom! I was the equivalent of \Unless directly delete it, but that the other party can sue me for breaking the law. Dare do it, we dare not do.
News: have friends worried, QQ security scan, a threat to user privacy.
Ma: If you want to prevent users from data theft, it must be scanned, but the security module will only read the first 1K data exe program will not read the entire file, so not a waste of time? Will not upload user information.
Yangcheng Evening News: QQ is when adding security modules? Why join?
Ma: 2006. At that time, Trojan horses, hacking has been very rampant, and even hacking tutorial in the spread, a lot of Trojans are not common to write out the first test can not fool several security software that can fool just released, QQ by its harm, last resort embedded security scanning module.
the Trojan hidden in where? Certainly not in the QQ document, but in other applications there, so we can only scan for other files. Until now, every day we find out the infected QQ, has 1.7 million. I did not expect, so the normal thing would be to discredit others, it is actually 200% of the slander!
Yangcheng Evening News: These scan data will upload it?
Ma: Definitely not upload, I upload it doing? But if that Trojan, Trojan data will be uploaded.
News: Trojan data will contain the user information?
Ma: Of course not.
Yangcheng Evening News: 360 said, QQ security scan, the software includes nearly 700 \
Ma: I need it to be trouble? Application software problems, qualitative enough, no need to quantify. There are so many survey companies, their data have been clear enough. This argument is pure slander, only deceive those who do not understand software development.
Yangcheng Evening News: QQ steward of the 360 computer how to evaluate?
Ma: We hold that no moral vendors, until now, we still encourage users to uninstall.
News: Some people worry that the QQ force users to choose the second one, next time a conflict with other software, but also using the same method.
Ma: how could,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], this time in emergency relief, life and death when it is done. Before, Tencent also clashed with many companies, we used this method? No. I own user, do not I do not feel bad? Is he an outsider rather than I feel bad?
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Yangcheng Evening News: What do you think, Tencent no problem at all it?
Ma: Of course not, we also have some problems. So now added a \
there in September when the security module to upgrade, we changed its name to become doctors QQ QQ housekeeper, the user see the icon changed, soon complained to me. We have conducted a serious internal criticism, and the next day changed, and the pop-up selection box, allowing users to choose to install, but the 360-block of this module, the user can not see a selection box.
Yangcheng Evening News: There are not taken into account, the user will choose?
Ma: Xuanshui not considered relatively large proportion of it. The key is to escape. Life-saving time, should at any cost.
News: Will there be a user leaves?
Ma: It was also to leave. If they feel uninstall QQ, so come back after things calm you can, as long as the information not be infected, just fine.
News: In your opinion, this is not the worst disaster in history, Tencent?
Ma: Definitely yes. But also man-made, not natural disasters.
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Yangcheng Evening News: There are no estimates, while the computer equipment 360 and the number of QQ?
Ma: the real installed capacity of 360 in between 120 to 150 million, with the degree of coincidence we installed a computer about 60%. Estimates down, affected about 100 million QQ users.
Yangcheng Evening News: How much QQ about 360 users receive a dialog box prompts uninstall?
Ma: 80% of the users only know that there is such a thing, only 15% of users are prompted to \
News: off the assembly line will not expand the scope of notification?
Ma: We will like to play the same plug, wiped out all buttoned bodyguards.
Yangcheng Evening News: 360 buttoned it hosted the privacy protection bodyguards and the source code, that does not mean that it is no problem with it?
Ma: Managed source code could explain what the problem? Code itself is no problem, but it is the use of cloud technology control, the opponents of software dubbed \!
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Yangcheng Evening News: The Hong Zhou? there has been no communication?
Ma: September had to communicate, when he believes that we do computer housekeeper, on the 360 is a serious threat, would we invest in it, and to joint us to play Baidu, and Baidu to block ads say, destroyed most of its income.
News: You did, eh?
Ma: no. Also because of this, so 360 would like to clear, Tencent first hit. I also received threatening text messages, also reported, public security but also to collect evidence, the family is still worried about my safety, specially enhanced security.
Yangcheng Evening News: What is time? Will not just kidding? Look?
Ma: It is more than a dozen numbers from September Hong Zhou? issued cell phone, I will not say the specific content, but the tone is definitely not a joke.
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News: Government departments are not involved in late?
Ma: Actually, very early, but the characterization is very difficult. Tencent faced with the problem, 3 days finished, we have 2 half days to solve the problem.
Yangcheng Evening News: In what regulation can improve on?
Ma: do need a neutral body, particularly the underlying security. The referee is best not to do business, it needs a non-profit organization. But if so, afraid unable to retain talent. We do not want the original general security software has been that there was Rising, 360 Jinshan enough of these checks and balances, but they can not stand, and I only do it.
Yangcheng Evening News: The traditional regulation is not also keep up the rhythm a little bit?
Ma: development of the Internet so fast, like a cloud killing, could not had time to respond. However, the Ministry of Industry suggested the matter special attention, otherwise too horrible.
Yangcheng Evening News: It was up to now, have you ever reflect on the Internet in the end what's the problem?
Ma: I have been considering this issue, in fact, most Internet businesses are very healthy competition is fair competition. But the 360, can be said that a malignant tumor, even if the removal can not also be repaired. Many CEOs are calling me to hold on. However, there is no time to hit their own, most people chose to watch, they all came to serve as cannon fodder for fear.
3Q war, Tencent and 360 how much each one should be buried?
11 月 4 日 slightly into the \Yesterday morning, Jinshan, Sogou, Maxthon, to cattle, Baidu five companies jointly held a press conference, that will not be compatible with 360 series software. This is the history of the Internet is not compatible with the largest events.
event again to upgrade, leaving more and more onlookers guess: 3Q Tencent and 360 of this war will be how much it cost?
Wen / Lin Xi Lu Zhilin Yangcheng Evening News
3Q war, Tencent loss Know?
As economists say, in the 360 and Tencent's \immediate. 3Q World War, Hong Kong stocks Tencent shares were hammered, in February this year caused the largest decline since.
This book is just numbers, reputation and the actual revenue loss is the key.
According to reports, Tencent QQ users to install a 360-buttoned bodyguards, the 360 guards will immediately start buttoning a shirt specifically for the medical examination of QQ. The first examination of the scores are usually very low, in this induction, the user will subconsciously right click a button to fix the button appears. The so-called fix, in fact, 11 QQ feature is mysteriously deleted, including the chat window ad, QQ mini-home advertising, QQ notice advertising, Tencent search search plug-in, QQ show plug-in, QQ members plugin, QQ Pet , Magic face the profitability of such an important tool for Tencent.
Tencent CTO Xiong Minghua Co
Yangcheng Evening News in an interview that none of these losses are temporary statistics. But experts told the reporter, 360 before the \Not a variety of plug-in feature of the above, can be imagined, Tencent profit model will be greatly reduced.
Baidu Tao Wu, Deputy Director client that is directly shielded QQ buttoned bodyguards all the ads on the panel, at least advertising on chat panel, as well as QQ Show, the surface looks like a small thing, but we think about, QQ Show product is a typical product user fees, users value-added products, which is among the Internet industry, very large piece of business profits, largely accounted for more than half of commercial profits. If the QQ show blocked, in theory, all the value-added services to block out all their earnings.
However, in order to recover the malicious \Liu Ningbo communications industry independent analysts noted that as a group before and after 2007 the development of new instant messaging tools, while using instant messaging software 2-3 paragraph also gradually increase the proportion of users has exceeded 50%. For example, Ali and HC Want Hair, along with the further expansion of the Chinese e-commerce people, e-commerce will gradually occupy the Chinese IM market.
provoke a war, lose or win 360?
360
to the contrary, it will not have any loss of the incident? The answer is, yes, but its purpose was achieved.
Stephen Chow's previous films are often referred to \Now, the 360 seems to play such a role. Since its establishment from the odd tiger, 360 security guards surrounded by enemies in the Internet industry, first and Alibaba continue to dispute, and later with the Rising, Kingsoft antivirus software and other domestic counterparts Distance calling, seems to have become the Internet community Lanzi \hooligan. \
2007 年 8 on 10, 360 and Ali Baba \Beijing Second Intermediate Court ruling against the odd tiger network required to compensate the economic losses Alibaba costs 3 million and 4 million yuan. However, Alibaba's online business assistants and network name was finally announced in 2009, officially closed.
2010 年 3 month, 360 security guards in software version 7.0 will be developed Baidu Baidu Baidu toolbar and address bar of two software is defined as \Subsequently, Baidu agreement with the 360, 360 bundled the browser toolbar, Baidu, and 360 side by calculating the flow way, \
2010 年 5 21, said in a statement Jinshan security excuse the odd tiger compatibility enticing a user to forcibly uninstall Jinshan network shield. 360 responded, claiming that the existence of interference shield Jinshan network 360 security guards and many other web pages to run a firewall problem. Formally opened the case in court. In this war, Kam did not disclose terms of the relevant economic loss, but in the possession of market share is indeed affected. \Moreover, so many years of \\
However, yesterday morning, ushered in the history of the Chinese Internet is not compatible with the largest events: Jinshan, Sogou, Maxthon, to cattle, Baidu, Tencent, following five companies held a press conference after the joint that will not be compatible with 360 series software, and the joint revealed 360 of the \Event will the peaceful resolution of the intervention of authorities remains to be seen.
But the chief technical engineer that \Tencent loss tools and a series of moves seems to profit, 360 did not get any practical benefits, Tencent suffered major losses. \announced. \
Jinshan, Sogou, Maxthon, to cattle, Baidu announced that five companies will not be compatible with 360
Yangcheng Evening News reporter Lu Zhilin reports: Yesterday, the Chinese Internet is ushering in the largest historical events are not compatible: Jinshan, Sogou, Maxthon, to cattle, Baidu five companies jointly held a press conference, that will not be compatible 360 Series software. Baidu is responsible for clients including the Deputy Director of Wu Tao, Maxthon's CEO, and Chen Ming Fu Sheng could be CEO of cattle (microblogging), Kingsoft CEO Wang Xin Security (microblogging) and others show up conference. But the five companies said that the current approach is not compatible yet to be determined, but must be out of that attitude: \
five vendors will not be compatible with 360 announced
\security protection \Fu Sheng is also disclosed the same time 360 \Hard demolition surf browser software bad reviews Baidu, Tencent slander. \
five companies in the field requires \It is the following with Tencent QQ 360, after the machine stops running, the Internet companies join forces for the second batch of 360 \
authority of the management or involved in the investigation
news that the Ministry of Industry and Telecommunications Research Institute of the relevant responsible person said, for the 360 and Tencent disputes, the Ministry of Industry launched an official investigation procedures, followed by Ministry of Industry and Telecommunications Research Institute will convene expert meetings, which matter for discussion.
Baidu client Tao Wu, Deputy Director, said five companies will jointly to the Ministry of Industry and other related departments to submit proposals, called for government departments to mediate. He said the first proposal is to hope that the whole power of so-called software testing on a given country. \professional and impartial third party evaluation institutions. \
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